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  3. KW AAA Hockey Program to begin Operation in 2011-2012 Season
    December 29, 2010 | Rose Lodoen | Waterloo Minor Hockey | Link


    The Kitchener Rangers are excited to announce the creation of the KW “AAA” Hockey Program that will begin operation in the 2011-12 season.

    The KW AAA Hockey Program is a joint venture between the Rangers, Kitchener Minor Hockey Association (“KMHA”) and Waterloo Minor Hockey Association (“WMHA”) that will operate “AAA” Minor Bantam, Bantam, Minor Midget and Midget teams under Alliance Hockey.

    The Minor Bantam and Minor Midget teams will operate under KMHA and the Rangers and be called the KW AAA Rangers. These two teams will wear the traditional Rangers uniforms.

    The Bantam and Midget teams will operate under the WMHA and the Rangers and will be called the KW AAA Wolves. These two teams will wear the traditional black and gold colours of WMHA displaying the Wolves Crest.

    The Rangers will provide through its own coaching staff a coaching mentorship program for the teams in addition to directing both coach and player selection. The Rangers will also provide sponsorship which will include financial support and equipment for the teams.

    “The program’s goals are to provide young hockey players in our community an environment to assist them in developing their hockey skills to their maximum potential but at the same time recognizing that first and foremost they are minor hockey players. After having the opportunity to work with both KMHA and WMHA during these last few months, I believe they should be congratulated on their willingness to work together to make this happen and demonstrate on a consistent basis their commitment to the kids in our community. From our point of view this program provides us another chance to return the support that we receive from the communities of Kitchener and Waterloo,” stated Steve Bienkowski, Chief Operating Officer of the Kitchener Rangers.

    "This initiative has been made possible because of the foresight and community spirit of the Kitchener Rangers. We are happy to be involved with the Rangers and KMHA in this joint venture that is clearly aimed at improving coach and player development in the Kitchener-Waterloo area," said Alan Reinhardt, President of WMHA. "The respect shown by all involved in the preservation of the identities of both minor hockey organizations is absolutely fantastic."

    Tom Graham, President of KMHA says, "The establishment of this program provides another great opportunity for KMHA to continue working with the Kitchener Rangers Hockey Club to provide the best possible hockey for the youngsters of our community. The proposal brings together two established Hockey organizations and we are excited about where this could all go. We thank the Rangers for supporting this initiative and look forward to many more years of working together."

    Additional information will be released in the coming weeks including information concerning coaching opportunities within the KW AAA Hockey Program.

    For further information:
    Al Reinhardt, President Waterloo Minor Hockey Association
    Tom Graham, President Kitchener Minor Hockey Association
  4. Does this mean that overall there will be fewer hockey players at these two levels (ie 4 teams from each City consolidated to 4 teams for both Cities combined)?
  5. K-W AAA Hockey Joint Venture Information Session
    By Rose Lodoen @ Waterloo Minor Hockey | January 12, 2011 | http://waterloominorhockey.com/Artic...1-2012_Season/

    Date: January 18, 2011 - 7:00 to 9:00 PM in the Forbes Room (RIM Park)

    There will be an information session for WMHA members only on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 in the Forbes Room at RIM Park. This will be an opportunity to hear more about the joint venture.
  6. Quote Originally Posted by WaterlooNative
    Does this mean that overall there will be fewer hockey players at these two levels (ie 4 teams from each City consolidated to 4 teams for both Cities combined)?
    It definitely looks that way.


    Call for calm on minor hockey merger issue
    January 19, 2011 | JEFF HICKS | WATERLOO REGION RECORD | LINK

    WATERLOO - There was talk of betrayal...

    Eighty-six Waterloo minor hockey members watched a presentation on the proposal, which would be in place for next fall and reduce the number of elite triple-A clubs in Kitchener and Waterloo from eight to four.

    As a result, 68 triple-A spots would be lost for local kids ages 13-17.

    The goal is to create a more competitive “super” team and improve the development of elite local players by having them play with better players...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterlooNative
    Does this mean that overall there will be fewer hockey players at these two levels (ie 4 teams from each City consolidated to 4 teams for both Cities combined)?
    No, that's not exactly what it means. There will be fewer AAA players in the Bantam and Midget age groups not fewer hockey players period.
    This is a good thing for the players that are good enough to make the cut, a very good thing. To put it in perspective a city of comparable size of Waterloo region has such as London or Hamilton has 1/3 the number of AAA teams. Our teams can't compete with teams from London or Toronto not just on a head to head basis but when it comes to players taking the next step and being drafted to the OHL. Playing on teams stocked with inferior talent often coached by someone who's top priority his own and/or his friends kids making the team holds the truly elite players back. The players that don't make it will play at a lower level where they should have been all along.
    I can't speak for Waterloo minor hockey though I've heard they suffer from the same problems that I know have affected Kitchener minor hockey for years. The system is monopolized by parents. If your kid plays AAA hockey when their 8 or 9 then chances are they will always play AAA. On the other hand if your kid isn't in the loop early there is little chance of him ever getting his foot in the door regardless of his skill level.
    This new approach would take a major step towards getting a lot of that stuff out of the game and would supply the teams with a much more professional coaching staff that would put player development first.
    I suspect those who suffer the most will be the parents of those who get cut. It will be a blow to the ego of some when their kids have to play at a lower level but better for the kids to be playing with and against kids of equal talent.
  8. Report on WMHA/KMHA "Joint Venture"

    FAQ on page 7.



    From: http://waterloominorhockey.com/Artic...Joint_Venture/
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    From Kitchener-Waterloo | Member Since Dec 2009 | 5,693 Posts
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    Special General Meeting - Feb 24th - AAA Joint Venture
    February 16, 2011 | Rose Lodoen | Waterloo Minor Hockey | Link


    A Special General Meeting of WMHA members will be held on Thursday February 24, 2011 in the Forbes Hall at RIM Park. Pre-registration will begin at 6:30pm (be prepared to present photo identification), with the meeting beginning at 7:00pm.

    The purpose of the meeting will be to vote on the AAA Joint Venture between WMHA, KMHA and the Kitchener Rangers. Each individual member is entitled to ONE vote (regardless of the number of children any member has playing in the association). If a player has reached the age of 18 on February 24th, he/she is deemed a voting member (rather than his/her parents) and may vote. Parents of players over age 18 are welcome to attend the meeting, however will not be permitted to vote.

    For detailed information regarding:

    1) the AAA joint venture,
    2) Alliance Hockey's stance on the joint venture,
    3) the revised rep team structure for 2011,

    Please click on the following documents and links.

    Alliance Hockey's Position on the AAA Joint Venture
    Open Letter to Members Feb 15.pdf
    Joint Venture - WMHA- KMHA - Rangers.pdf
    Joint Venture - WMHA- KMHA - Rangerspg2.pdf
    2011-2012 Rep Team Structure.pdf
    Notice re REPTEAMS2011-2012.pdf
    AAA Joint Venture Information.pdf
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    This merger's been shot down by parents from Waterloo which is unfortunate for the kids who truly deserve to be playing triple A. They are being held back by the fragile ego's of some parents.
    Oh well. Life goes on and approximately 70 kids who wouldn't play triple A hockey in any other centre this size will continue to play triple A here.
  11. I am a bit confused by the above comment. On one hand, kids who deserve to be playing triple A are being held back, yet apparently 70 kids who wouldn't otherwise get the opportunity to play continue to play triple A here. Aren't more opportunities to play hockey better than fewer opportunities to play?
  12. UrbanWaterloo's Avatar
    From Kitchener-Waterloo | Member Since Dec 2009 | 5,693 Posts
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    The results of the vote...

    Special General Meeting Results
    February 25, 2011 | Rose Lodoen | Waterloo Minor Hockey | Link


    A Special General Meeting was held on February 24th for the purpose of obtaining full information regarding the AAA Joint Venture for Minor Bantam to Midget teams. After presentations from the WMHA Board as well as representatives of Alliance Hockey and the Kitchener Rangers, members in attendance voted to defeat the motion.

    Of the 466 ballots that were cast, 170 were in favour of proceeding with the Joint Venture, and 296 were against. The motion has therefore been defeated and there will be no changes to our AAA, A, or MD programs in the 2011/12 season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterlooNative
    I am a bit confused by the above comment. On one hand, kids who deserve to be playing triple A are being held back, yet apparently 70 kids who wouldn't otherwise get the opportunity to play continue to play triple A here. Aren't more opportunities to play hockey better than fewer opportunities to play?
    More opportunity for kids who aren't triple A caliber players to play triple A isn't good for the kids. You don't develop well when playing above your head. That's why Nazim Kadri doesn't play for the Leafs. It's also why Jerry D'Amigo plays in the OHL now and not the AHL and it's why double A players should not play triple A hockey.
    Also take into account the players who are good enough to be playing triple A. They are playing with teams at least half full if not 2/3( all three cities should have one team)full of players who aren't good enough to play triple A elsewhere.
    How good does Phil Kessel look in Toronto? He would be much better if he was playing with better players but he's playing with guys who would never be on the top three lines of another team and in some cases guys who wouldn't be in the NHL.

    This wasn't about Kitchener taking anything away from Waterloo or making fewer spots available for kids to play hockey. Just as many kids were going to be able to play hockey after this. They just wouldn't be able to play at a level they weren't good enough to be playing.
    This was simply about helping the truly elite level players become better. Those that follow the OHL will see the inordinate number of players coming out of similar sized cities compared to Waterloo region. Very few players from here ever get to that level and that translates into far fewer who will ever play pro.

    While some in Waterloo made this a Waterloo vs. Kitchener issue the biggest problem is the blow to the egos of parents would have no longer had the luxury of bragging about their triple A kids if they were cut. This deal would not only have cut the number of triple A players it would have eliminated most of the situations where kids play triple A because of who their parents know not how they play and that has been an issue in Kitchener and Waterloo for several decades.